We are Pakistanis - Geelani ( please feel free to leave )

18/08/2008 06:10:15 HK
Pakistanis have no rights in India. After the declaration of the Separatist leader Syed Ali Geelani who is supported by the Hurriyat faction that there is no solution in Srinagar but merger with Pakistan, it is time for India to act.
All these years in the name of minority appeasement, successive governments have ignored these separatist calls and kept giving the Muslims of Srinagar more and more liberty to attack our forces and speak against our country. Countless jawans have given their life over Kashmir.
If the separatists think that there is no solution to the crisis in Kashmir other than merging with Pakistan, they ares free to leave Kashmir and migrate to Pakistan. If he thinks it is Islam that binds him to Pakistan, why has he and his ancestors stuck to Kashmir when it was being partitioned in the name of Islam? Why didn’t he migrate to his heavenly country? Why did Pakistan occupy parts of Kashmir?
Yassin Malik went a step further and called for the complete independence of Kashmir from both India and Pakistan. With so much hatred for the country being openly displayed in the streets of Kashmir, where is the government of India in all this?
Watching the Olympics in China?

Sunil 19/08/2008 06:27:50
What should we do on people like Arundhadhi RoyNow Arundhadi Roy also justifying thier stand ! It can be happened only in India ! Tomorrow Kerala's Budhijeevi Mr. Sukumaar Azhikode will also support their stand, God knows... Who will punish them who are issueing such statements in India ? May be a new Hindu Armed Force ?
Mohan 19/08/2008 02:26:51
Mr.Nonsence GelaniI am utter surprised to see the plight of congress leader about tackling the trroriesm.What a same when these so called congress partner supporting must dangerous SIMI. If any body has guts should arrest immidiately Mr.Sakeel Ahemad, Mr.Mulayam and Mr.Lalu.We Indians particularly hindus are impotent and nonsence by watching Mr.Lau in zee TV shows. What a fantastic person he is? Every indian should know the true colour of Mr.Mulayam, Mr.Lalu and business dalal Mr.Amar Sing.Apart from these, we should put into bar Mr.nonsence Madni from kerala, he is just vemoting poision in the young muslim mind by the help of red Chamcha(Comusnist).These are the enenies of the hindu soceity are follows:-01.Congress02.Its partners03.Communist in any form04.Naxalite05.Maobadi06.Islamist Jehadi07.Chrstian Missionaries08.Other hidden NGO- who works aginst the Hindus particularly in Kerala and other parts of India09.English News Chennel10.Asianet11.M. Bhumi news papaers.Be aware of these. Awake and arise still goal of your achived. Namaskar.
Sahya 19/08/2008 01:01:28
Another India Hater, Arundhati

Royhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Kashmir_needs_freedom_from_India_Arundhati_Roy/articleshow/3378687.cms
SeaLion 18/08/2008 22:21:48
Where are MAINO DOGSWhere are the MAINO'S POTlicking garden dogs like Digvijay Singh,Manish Tiwari, Arjun Singh who were asking for Modi to be tried for treason. Why not Geelani?? Oh he is another guest of honor of 10 Janpath This Geelani is a Congressi scum and true to legacy of Nehru/Gandhi another partition is being planned
KSV SUBRAMANIAN 18/08/2008 10:52:14
What a shame on Government ?Remaining firmly on the Indian soil, this vermin is declaring his loyalty to Pakistan. He states he is a Pakistani. And this spineless government maintains a sphinx like silence. What a shame. This is the height of inaction and impotence. It is time this government showed some willingness to act firmly.UPA, especially the Congress, is not ruling the country, but actually ruining the country.
K.Venugopal 18/08/2008 10:10:42
Destroy Pakistan or it will destroy us.Let us fulfill the Kashmiri separatists' dream - let us open the Muzzaffarabad road - one way. They can get out of India and into Pakistan. In fact, we have to push them further into Pakistan proper and retake Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. The government should prepare a contingency plan to destroy Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. (In all probability, Pakistan may have already prepared a contingency plan to destroy our nuclear reactors and may have infiltrated sleeper cells into India for aiding the purpose.)

Let us not live in a dream world. The reality is that either we destroy Pakistan or it destroys us.
Raj Puducode 18/08/2008 09:20:02
Islam the big curse on India & worldIndia is undergoing outright warfare, with its cities bombed at will and massive infiltration across its borders. The Pakistani rationale for cutting India down to size has rarely faltered since 1947 and echoes a much older Islamic tradition. It stretches back a millennium and reasserted itself the moment British usurpers of Islamic rule were expelled by Hindus. Of course the Anglo-American imperialists and cold warriors actively incited this diabolical outcome because they assumed Islam would be an ally against Soviet communism and Nehru’s India would not. The Arabs in general and the Saudis in particular eventually become co-conspirators in the project to restore Islamic primacy in the Indian subcontinent even if Hindus were to continue ruling it nominally as vassals. They correctly perceive that the ability to control and deploy India’s economic and demographic assets will allow them to challenge the Christian West. The Saudis are the main source of the catalytic funding for the jihad that is threatening to break India’s political will and evidently succeeding. The Chinese also became active after the mid-1950s in arming Pakistan and, more recently, encouraging its bombing campaign of Indian cities to curb the economic advance of India, which it regards as an irritating, lowly rival. Within India, some mosques and madrasas are the fifth column that provides critical support for the aggression that it is encountering. Their role is to cultivate passive and active support for the Islamic onslaught. It entails ensuring that most Muslims refuse to co-operate in efforts to interdict Islamic terrorists by remaining silent spectators while the murderous bombings continue, provide safe havens in impenetrable Muslim areas for terrorists and a vital element of local manpower to the Pakistani and Saudi agencies engaged in terrorist activities

Agitation to continue until land is returned: SASS

18/08/2008 04:35:54 Pioneer
Talking tough, Shri Amarnath Sangarsh Samiti (SASS) on Sunday said that it will continue with its agitation until a piece of land at Baltal is returned to the shrine board.
Alleging that the Centre was adopting a biased stand on Jammu and Kashmir by following a policy of appeasement towards the valley, SASS convenor Leela Karan Sharma said, "The Central Government has been a mute spectator. It is following a wrong policy of division."
Sharma threatened to march to Baltal, where the piece of land is located, if the SASS' demand of reverting it to the shrine board was not met.
"We have many options to continue our protests. But we would better not disclose them," he told reporters in New Delhi.
When asked whether economic blockade was one of the options, Sharma said, "It could be. But right now there is no blockade. If we really do, the whole world will come to know."
Blaming Centre's "wrong policies" for the present crisis in the State, he said that if the Government wanted to save the country from terrorism, it has to fulfil the aspirations of the people of Jammu.
"Kashmir is the gateway of terrorism to India. If you want to save the country, you have to strengthen Jammu. We appeal to the people of India to stand behind the people of Jammu," Sharma said.
The Samiti objected to the handing over of the management of the Amarnath Yatra to the State Tourism Department saying that it has no locus standi to handle Hindu religious affairs.
Sharma criticised leaders of PDP, National Conference, Governor NN Vohra and Central Government for "bowing down" before the separatists on the Amarnath issue.
"Change Vohra as the Governor and it will help in building a congenial atmosphere in Jammu," he said.
Asked about the demand for opening of trade through the Muzaffarabad road, he said, "it was nothing but a blackmailing tactic of some of the Kashmiri leaders."
Sharma said that they were ready for talks to find an amicable solution to the present crisis.
"We are not against dialogue," he said by adding, "What we want is the piece of land at Baltal and there should be no interference in the affairs of Shrine Board," he said.
Asked whether there was any possibility of taking a "middle path" to resolve the issue, Sharma said, "If there is any, it should come from the Government. We are open for it."
He said that the SASS agitation was totally secular and people from all sects were participating it.

K.Venugopal 18/08/2008 09:29:49
Land or BlockadeThe agitation for Amarnath has meant complete shut down in Kashmir for many weeks now. This must be a world record. However, our pleas are likely to fall only on deaf ears because the UPA government is unable to think of anything beyond appeasing Muslims. The only solution is indeed an economic blockade of Kashmir. “Land or Blockade - this should be our war cry. And anytime in future the Amarnath yatra is threatened, there should be an immediate response of economic blockade. The Muzaffarabad road should be opened - but only one way, for those wishing to leave India for Pakistan. Till we get the land, allow only the Army to use the road to Kashmir. The only people who are opposing allotment of 100 acres of land to Amarnath are the separatists of Kashmir. This is proved by the fact that the Congress-PDP government agreed to give the land to the shrine. They developed cold feet when the separatists opposed it. Therefore the separatists must be crushed – otherwise only their writ will run in Kashmir. The UPA lacks the political will to do it. BJP must put the slogan “Crush the Separatists” into their election manifesto.

Amarnath land row : VHP call for nation-wide agitation on 13th

08/08/2008 23:41:03 HK
NEW DELHI: The Vishwa Hindu Parishad yesterday dismissed the Centre's 'initiatives' to end the Amarnath land row as it would not fructify unless there is a talk to restore land to Amarnath Shrine Board.
The meeting convened by the Prime Minister is an insult to the majority Hindu community of the country as the resolution had no mention of the giving back of the land, said VHP leader Dr. Praveen Bhai Togadia.
The Hindu outfit called for a nationwide road blockade on August 13.
"The agitation is not restricted to Jammu alone. The nation would come to standstill on August 13", Togadia claimed.
Togadia also objected to the use of army against the nationalist protestors. The UPA government is using army to fulfil its political agenda. You cannot pitch the army against the nationalist demonstrators. We object to such actions," he said.




SUNIL 13/08/2008 13:24:06
Hindu Front in Kerala.As told by Patriotic Indian, For time being and for the sake of Hindu unity, we can support Vellappally Nadesan as CM or for his political aspirations. No doubts about his guts for talking for Hindu causes and he is defenetly a choice for Hindus in Kerala at this moment.But we can not trust him on his stand, becasue he used to change his stand frequently. Also he is willing to work together with Jihadi Leader like Madani !. Hence, we should have a leader like Bal Thackeray with guts from the SANGH FAMILY to lead the HINDU FRONT IN KERALA and we can give support and posts to Vellappally etc for the sake of Hindu Unity and Hindu growth financially and culturally. As stated by sealion, we are expecting an ARMED REVOLUTION also in India by Hindu forces in order to re-gain our identity and protect our interest in our own HINDUSTAN....
Hindu 09/08/2008 09:04:09
Shambo Rudra Mahadeva...Yes. VHP is correct. There is no other option left. Land should be given back to Amarnath Shrine board.The demand is minimum and very secular in all respect.It is trajedy that belivers of Amrnath should agitate for 40 acres of land in India!
Patriotic Indian 09/08/2008 07:59:08
Let us all Start the Revolution Without any more waitingThe greatest enemies of hindus are in the print and electronic media of english,hindi and regional languages. A long hit list of these enemies and agents of jehadis, vatican and other enemies has to be prepared and bjp,rss,vhp and all patriotc indians need to atke care of them first to save hindu majority and the country itself.Now SNDP if going to be a political party and BJP,RSS, and all hindu factions incuding nss, barhmana sabha, adivasis and sc/st hindus factions need to support Vellapilly Natesan as the future chief minister of Kerala as well as for an important position in centre and teach both congress and leftist fronts a hard lesson. Let the revolution start without wasting any moment anf this is the time to strike as Lord Krishna told his disciple and devotee Arjuna to send arrow at Karna directly when he was struggling with his chariot in the "Mahabharath" grand War. Hope BJP,RSS, VHP and all patriotc hindus will not let this god-sent opportunity given my Lord Shiva to go waste or slip away! We may not get a similar golden opportunity next time like this!
SeaLion 09/08/2008 04:24:26
AAGHAZZThe list of barbarity by this Christian Nero derivative led Govt,and the Crass, filthy, low born, low bred media mafiosi on Hindus is very long.Thanks Patriotic Indian, hope that this is just the AAGAAZ, the anjaam would be the wiping out of these Christian-Mullah-Marxist-M.F."SICKULAR" NEXUS which wants to break and Iraquise our Motherland for the sake of their FOREIGN MASTERS AT LANGLEY OR BEIJING, OR THE MAFOSI IN ITALY (AND COLOMBIAN DRUG CARTELS). Maybe this time around French, Russian or even Mahabharat would look like child's play, and these cross products of number of fathers, going as "seculars" would have no genetic material left in the world. ARMED REVOLUTION IN INDIA IS COMING, HEY SECULAR DOGSONS OF US, CHINA, ITALY, COLOMBIA, BELGIUM JUST WAIT AND WATCH. VINAASHKALE VIPREET BUDDHI
Sunil 09/08/2008 03:30:36
Make India a Hindu Nation or apply Uniform civil code all its citizens..Since still India is not a Hindu republic, there is no point of providing minority status and facilities for Christians and Muslims. We must have uniform civil code as still India is a secular country and Indian Govt. should treat all Indian citizens under the same law.
Patriotc Indian 09/08/2008 02:39:39
Now all Hindus Need to unite and Fight and Eliminate Uur Enemies ForeverRight way to go, VHP,RSS, BJP and all hindus.This great opportunity provided by Lord Shiva to unite all hindus and to defeat anti hindus and enemies of hindus in an all-out war or agitation need to be used and organised properly and let us solve all problems of hindus will be solved soon.Despite being in a massive majority we have been behaving as frightened chicken or frighented lambs and behaving as second class or third class citizens.The anti-hindu and pro-minority role of nehru dynasty for the crimes against majority hindus is visible to every one. BJP must go aggressivley for the uniform civil code with prefereance for majority faith and sentiments and must cancel all special minority rivileges and reservations like articles 370,30 and 16. The indian media, both english, hindi and regional have been behaving really shamelessly and not even reporting or blacklisting these agitations and blaming hindus for every thing.There is need to make a hit list of all the media men and their agents and sponsors in the state as well as all over India and teach them a lesson they will not forget.Hope the coming civil war will eliminate all enemies of hindus and make russian and french revolutions like small revolutionsary events in history in comparison to the coming nationwide fight or agitation.
SeaLion 09/08/2008 02:23:38
Christianization of IndiaCOMPARE THIS ASSAULT OF THE CHRISTIANIC BEAST GOVT ON HINDUS, LED BY THE DERIVATIVE OF NERO AND HER CHAPRASI IN CHIEF, WITH THE WAY THEY BANNED THE FILM "DA VINCI CODE"THROUGHOUT INDIA AT THE FIRST SIGN OF PROTEST BY THE CHRISTIAN BEASTS IN INDIA.THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE TO THROWING THESE NERO/WHITE ITALIAN SLAVES WITH THEIR BOSS TO HELL FOR EVER
K.Venugopal 09/08/2008 00:23:58
100 acres - a test case

The 100 acres of land for Amarnath has become a test case as to whether secularism also means respect for Hindu sentiments. We have to beware of the tricks the government may play on the Hindus. They might, for instance, say that temporary facilities shall be provided for the pilgrims and we should not bother as to whom the land belongs. If pilgrims’ facilities are taken care of, then what are the Hindus of Jammu agitating for? So call off your strike.We must not be fooled. Why can't Hindus have 100 acres of land? Let this question be answered first and all other answers shall follow.

Amarnath talks fail, Hindus to Intensify Agitation

09/08/2008 09:01:51 HK
JAMMU: The talks between the Central team and the Shri Amarnath Sangarsh Samiti (SASS) failed on Saturday.
"The team did not come up with a concrete proposal. They kept repeating what happened in the meeting in New Delhi. We reiterated our demands. The meeting was inconclusive," Samiti convenor Leela Karan Sharma said.
He said the agitation would continue.
Earlier, People's Democratic Party chief Mehbooba Mufti, who was leaving the venue before the meet, said any solution that was not acceptable to the people of Jammu and Kashmir cannot be arrived at.
In response, Sharma said, "The same is with us. We won't agree to any solution that is acceptable to the people of the state."
Leaders from the Kashmir Valley, including National Conference leader Farooq Abdullah, People's Democratic Party chief Mehbooba Mufti and Saifuddin Soz, were kept out of the meet as demanded by the Samiti.

K.Venugopal 11/08/2008 04:47:34
Solution without allotment of land?

Dear LK, The 'solution' proposed is that everyone should go by a High Court order which does not talk of allotment of any land to Amarnath temple. Are you agreeable to this solution? I would think if we agree, we would have been roundly duped.
satheesh 11/08/2008 00:56:45
amarnath issueFriends,Ms.Mufti says that kashmir belong to kashmiris, and outsiders aren't allowed to buy land there.She sympathize with kashmiri traders(mostly muslims) but not a word of sumpathy for the hindus who have been evicted from the valley...Why?Why not they give their lands back in the first place?Just plain religious fanatism of which BJP is accused of, incorrectly?In india, if anyone raises concern for hindus, then he is communal, but if its for muslims then he is secular...This is the order of the day.
LK 10/08/2008 08:43:23
Venugopal

Let us not post negative messages on this message board Like Hindus are on the brink of being fooled again". Please remove such messges immediately.
K.Venugopal 10/08/2008 02:51:28
Fooled yet again?

Hindus are on the brink of being fooled yet again. I understand there is a move to make the Hindus accept that the title of the land does not matter, what matters is only the facilities. The Hindus of Jammu began their agitation when the transfer of land to Amarnath shrine was cancelled. If after 50 days of agitation through great suffering the Hindus are going to be told to forget about the transfer of land, then it would be a fact that Hindus have once again been fooled out of their rights in favour of forces which support separatism.

No one can question allotment of land in Amarnath: Advani

10/08/2008 13:02:50 Kaumudi
NEW DELHI: In a veiled attack on some Kashmiri leaders, senior BJP leader L K Advani on Sunday said no one can question allotment of land for Amarnath pilgrims in the valley declaring that "every Indian has the right on every inch of land" in the country and nobody can resist it.
Advani also said those opposing allotment of the land in Kashmir are challenging the constitutional fact that Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of the country.
Criticising the forces opposed to the allotment of land Advani said, "They say how can you give land to outsiders in Kashmir... Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India and whoever raises questions about this issue will have to pay for it."
He was speaking at a function to release the special issue of a children's magazine dedicated to former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee.
"This is not a question of Amarnath only or of a Shrine. They are saying it is okay that you have alloted land for Vaishno Devi in Jammu but how can you allot land in Kashmir," said BJP's prime ministerial candidate.
"And if somebody tries to resist that means he or she is challenging the constitutional fact that Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India. Therefore, we will oppose their move with all our might and we will win," said Advani in an apparent reference to the campaign by opponents of land transfer.
Comparing the present agitation in Jammu over the Amarnath issue to the protest launched by Jana Sangh ideologue Shyama Prasad Mukherjee 55 years ago for cancelling the "visa" system for those visiting Jammu and Kashmir, BJP leader L K Advani yesterday said "we have turned a full circle".
"Shyama Prasad Mukherjee had promised the people during that agitation that he would either get the permit system abolished or sacrifice his life ... Today (after the Amarnath agitation) we seem to have turned a full circle," Advani said.

Leela 14/08/2008 04:23:12
Amarnath land

Never mind about people in India quesitoning it, pakistan is questioning it and this knocked-kneed government gives wishy-washy responses. And in addition the human rights people have also jumped on the issue as soon as action was taken against the muslims. there was no outcry when Hindus were being killed by the police but as soon as the muslims were killed they start called for restraint. what a bunch of humbug scum-bags.

Dr.B.K.R.Nair 13/08/2008 08:53:56
settle jindus in kashmir

Center should scrap special previliges to kashmir.Hindus should be allowed to settle anywhere in kashmir.Govt should give special previliges to those hindus who settle in kashmir.Change the demography and that is the only solution.The problem is most political party leaders are weak and they dont care for the nation or for the future.Why should we give special prviliges to a bunch of goons in kashmir whose allegiance is towards our enemy and why should hard working indians should spend their tax money for them!!

Jawahar.P.Sekhar 12/08/2008 22:33:54
AmarnathExactly !!!

sarge 11/08/2008 22:41:10
Do or die

This is now a do or die situation for the majority community in India. The people of Jammu have really shown how to lead protests, without much violence and blood shed. Support them with all our might.Today if Hindus again succumb to the pseudo-seculars, Muslim jehadis know that they will win all ways and start creating problems all across India (as if that is not already happening).Kashmiris need to be shown a harsh sign of reality. Let them start smelling the coffee.

menon 11/08/2008 10:02:25
Secularism

We need a nationalist government who concerns about the country and it's people than pakistan and Bengladesh lovers in this country.

K.Venugopal 10/08/2008 14:21:50
100 acres already encroached by Muslims

The first step to unravel the tight knit network the separatists have built up in Kashmir is to permanently transfer 100 acres of land to Amarnath shrine. Any compromise on this will only strengthen the separatists and inspire Muslims all over India to work for the second partition of India.It is also not widely known that the 100 acres of land, said to belong to the forest department, have already been encroached by Muslims. These encroachers have to be evicted and a clear title should be transferred to the temple.