Wednesday, October 1, 2008

ARCHBISHOP SNUBS KARNATAKA CM - What happened after that?

29/09/2008 13:52:12 Courtesy: Benjamin P N
Archbishop snubs Karnataka CM-- the full story September 24, 2008.

The English language media reported only what happened at the carefuly rehersed performance of Archbishop Bernard Moras's outburstwhen the Karnataka CM Yediyurappa visited him.

Kannada papers have given a more complete account and Moras's stunt seems to have backfired.Here is the account from an insider who was actually present. First,the idea that the CM should visit the Archbishop came from a member of the Archbishop's camp who is also close to the Congress party. NDTV had also been invited and the opening greeting was in English though bothspeak Kannada. (Yediyurappa does not like to speak English.) But the performance was for national consumption, so the English.The Archbishop ave the rehearsed performance, which was broadcast onTV.

The CM controlled his normally quick temper so as not to make a public scene and lose his dignity. But once inside, away from lights and cameras, Yedurappa gave theArchbishop a piece of his mind. First he said a person in his(Archbishop' s) position should set an example to youth with his behavior, but he had failed in this task by his undignified public out burst. His conduct was unbecoming of a man claiming to be a'dharmaguru' .Then Yediyurappa told him that the state was having enough troublefighting terrorism and the church violence due to the activities of unruly missionaries was adding to the police burden. He told Moras that he could help the government do its job by controling the missionariesand put a stop to their activities.

At that point, one of Archbishop's men started whispering something in Moras's ear. It was now Yediyurappa' s turn to lose his temper. He told everyone present that a man of god had no need for secrecy, only politicians need secrecy. So there was no need for anyone to whisper anything to the Archbishop. They could say the same thing openly. The message was clear- the Church was playing politics in the name of religion. That was the end of the meeting. It is clear that Congress and JD (S) were behind the whole thing and Archbishop Moras was a useful idiot. I saw the story in the Kannada daily Samyukta Karnataka and got more details from a person who was present at the meeting.

R.Sajan 30/09/2008 06:29:50
Insulated inside their bungalowsWhen the Catholic clergy of Kerala wanted a Vimochana Samaram, the faithful themselves came out against it. The clergy has lost touch with the laymen that are now literate and have independent sources of information. That Yeddurappa did not react before the cameras [he might have been taken aback by the Bishop's whine] does credit to him.Would netizens have a look at the anti-India propaganda in the Wukipedia by Mallu priests and nuns hiding under various pseudonyms? I request everyone to read the Religious Violence pages in Wikepedia and edit them suitably.
Leela 30/09/2008 00:46:07
archbishopJust like the dramatic headlines of today hindu newspaper written by a parvati menon. the huge headlines on the front page screaming that a nun had been gang raped, making it sound like it had happened just now when it was a commentary on an incident that was supposed to have taken place soon after the murder of the 84-year old Sadhu and 5 of his followers. the language used by this parvati was terrible and enough to provoke even the most passive person. so this whole christian thing seems to be an attempt to oust the BJP governments.
Sk 29/09/2008 22:39:17
Media getting charged up....This is good news. It's relieving to know that Shri.Yediurappa gave a befitting reply to them. All the media is getting geared up for BJP bashing. The big fight(ndtv) and Devil's advocate(cnn-ibn) on last Saturday were all well scripted dramas. I guess more "shows" like this will come.
K.Venugopal 29/09/2008 22:06:57
Poaching of sheep
Isn't the Archbishop a leader of the Roman Catholics? His supreme leader, the Pope, has talked of 'poaching of Catholic sheep' by other Christian denominations. If the Pope is so disturbed by just a switch of denominations within Christiandom, can't the good Archbishop understand that Hindus are no longer willing to tolerate the ambushing of poor Hindu tribals and other weaker sections by Pentacostals and converting them?
vivek 29/09/2008 21:42:23
Church Cross-fireDev Gowda's cunning traps and New Life's miserable life for hindus in karnataka is the bane for Yediyurappa.Couple this with the DMK water thieves he is in for a long battle
menon 29/09/2008 13:29:41
Not clearWhat is it that was tryign to convey in this post? Please m,ake it a bit more clear. giving background story. It seems interesting.

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