In India, govt rewards families of Islamic Terrorists

28/07/2008 09:20:45 http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com
Pampering Killers Politicians are predisposed not to see spending Other People's Money as a problem, because spending Other People's Money is what politicians do for a living. If politicians thought there were something wrong with it, they would be in a different line of work.
- Michael F CannonThe UPA Government has decided to provide a relief package to dependents of terrorists -- those men who fought against the integrity of India and were killed by the security forces in encounters in Jammu & Kashmir. They did nothing for the country except attempting todestabilise it and kill innocent civilians. They tried their best to demoralise and assassinate those who were standing against them and for our nation.The extent of damage done by the terrorists, whose families are to be rewarded, can be gauged from the souvenir of Jammu & Kashmir Police released in 2003. It says that there were 56,041 incidents of violence, including 10,093 explosions, 29,931 firing incidents, 561cases of arson, 763 rocket attacks, 4,597 abductions, 229 cases of hanging to death, 275 arms snatching cases and 4,592 other acts of violence from January 1990 to December 2002.More than 30,000 civilians were killed during the 14-year-long militancy. The security forces seized 24,785 AK-type rifles, 9,387 pistols and revolvers, 58 carbines, 1,003 RPGs, 91 light machine guns and self-loading rifles, 742 rocket launchers and 2,270 rocket boosters during the same period. Besides, 6,865 kg of RDX, 47,219 grenades, 5,228 anti-personnel mines and 4,176 rockets were seized. Due to terrorism, 3.70 lakh Hindus and Sikhs were forced to leave the Valley and there has been almost total ethnic cleansing of theminorities from there.The Government decision is, hence, shocking. The policy is the first of its kind in the whole world. It will cover hundreds of families whose men took to guns and led the Pakistan-backed separatist movement, killing and maiming thousands of innocent civilians and menof security forces. Imagine if the US were to follow such policy, it would give compensation and pension to the families of all those who were responsible for the 9/11 attack or killers of President Kennedy, or Sri Lanka would extend similar treatment to the kin of those whokilled its two Presidents or Bangladesh would compensate the killers of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman!If implemented, the policy will make India look foolish in the eyes of the world, especially since our rulers are crying hoarse over terrorism. Incidentally, India is still bound by the UN resolution that demands strict action against terrorists. That the Government has also decided to come out with an aid package for the Kashmiri Pandits, rendered refugees in their own country, must have been an afterthought. Now, if the Government decision applies to the killers in Jammu & Kashmir, there is no reason not to extend it to other terrorists - Maoists and rebels in the North-East. The following chart will give an idea of the terrorists and killers in the other parts of the country.Forty-five per cent of the country's geographical area, covering 220 districts, is in the grip of insurgency. In the last 20 years, 64,000 people have been killed in terrorist violence. In October 2003, 55 districts in nine States were affected by Maoist violence. In October2004 it spread to 156 districts in 13 States. Since 1989, 13,000 civilians and 5,500 security personnel have been killed in Naxalite violence. Since that is so, the Government should ask itself why peace- loving taxpayers should foot the bill to compensate terrorists' kin just because it may help the Congress grab some extra votes when Jammu & Kashmir holds its next Assembly election.The compensation money is added to the following bonanza that only one State, Jammu & Kashmir, is fortunate to receive from the Union. On November 17, 2004, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh had announced an "economic revival plan" of Rs 24,000 crore for Jammu & Kashmir in Srinagar. That was a grant of an additional Rs 5,712 per capita. In the period 2000-2003, the State got Rs 13,188 crore, which is more than three times what a much poorer State, Bihar, got - Rs 4,047 crore. When you consider the Rs 14,085 crore net resource transfer by the Centre, with Rs 13,188 crore as a grant, you will get an idea ofthe magnitude of dole that Jammu & Kashmir gets. A similar "economic revival plan" for Bihar would amount to Rs 47,458 crore.The Jammu & Kashmir Government employs 3.5 lakh people, making it a ratio of 34.5 Government employees to every thousand persons. To get a better idea of the enormity of the State's assistance in employment, note that the Rajasthan Government employs less than double the number of people despite being about five and a half times bigger than Jammu& Kashmir in terms of population.Why such largesse for Jammu & Kashmir when the State does quite well in terms of socio-economic development? Its literacy level is at the national level (65.4 per cent). Its sex ratio (923:1000) too is almost at par with the national average (933:1000). Its birth rate(19.9:1000) is lower than the national average (25., its death rate (5.4:1000) lower than the national average (8.5/1000) too. With infant mortality rate at 45:1000, per capita income at Rs 12,399, 10th Five Year Plan per capita allocation of Rs 14,399, it has no reason tocomplain about the Centre's doles.It is nobody's case that Jammu & Kashmir does not get enough. In 2002-2003, the State raised a mere Rs 936 crore by way of taxes when its total non-tax revenue was Rs 4,745. Bihar collected Rs 2814 crore by way of taxes and had a total non-tax revenue of just Rs 2062 crores. In the last 10 years its poverty level has dropped from 25.17 per cent to a mere 3.48 per cent. The poverty level in India is around 26 per cent. Quite clearly, therefore, the nation's generosity and bounty is lavished upon Jammu & Kashmir very unfairly even as theState Government's accounts have not been audited for over a decade. No one really knows what was spent where and who got what.The Indian Government's decision amounts to the Government rewarding the terrorists for killing our brave soldiers. It may be no surprise, if the Government comes out with a package to offer a similar scheme to the perpetrators of the 1993 Mumbai blasts, 2006 trains bombings, the Sarojini Nagar and Govindpuri blasts and perhaps even the next of kin of the terrorists who attacked the Parliament House as well as those who attacked the Jammu & Kashmir Assembly. The media has already hinted that all this is being done, in view of the forthcoming general election. If that's true, it proves what Joseph Sobran said about theUS, which is also applicable to our country: "The difference between a politician and a pickpocket is that a pickpocket doesn't always get indignant when you tell him to keep his hands to himself."

K.Venugopal 28/07/2008 09:43:02
Terrorist cultThe scourge of terrorism can never be eradicated from India unless its source is traced and its source is nowhere else than the religion called Islam. All terrorism in India is planned and executed by Pakistan, the holy land Muslims carved out for themselves. It is the main source of arms and funds for the Naxalites, North Eastern insurgents, the Khalistanis and of course for the Jihadis of India. As fellow commentator at HK Shri Vaisakhanji would readily agree, Ali Sina’s site Faith Freedom should be popularized, as an antidote to the protection this terrorist cult gets in India in the name of secularism.

SeaLion 28/07/2008 06:44:47
THERE IS NO OTHER WAYThere is no other way to recover India. The Fangs of the deadly Italian serpent and family and the chaprasi serpent have to be broken for ever. The child murdering insane and mad witch for the unholiest of land and turbaned baboon have to removed for ever from our holy land.
"In India religion and nationalism are one. India rises with religion, lives by it and will perish with it and to rise in religion is to raise India"Aurobindo

BJP will hang Afzal if voted to power, says Katiyar

27/07/2008 23:02:26 http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/BJP-will-hang-Afzal-if-voted-to-power--says-Katiyar/341099/

Faizabad : BJP will ensure that Parliament attack convict Afzal Guru is hanged if the party is voted to power in the next general elections, a senior leader said.
"Guru will be hanged the same day, the day when our Government will take oath," party's national general secretary Vinay Katiyar said, expecting a majority BJP Government after next general election in 2009.
On the land issue of Amarnath shrine board, Katiyar said Jammu and Kashmir Government revoked the transfer of land under pressure from the terrorists and separatists groups.

K.Venugopal 28/07/2008 09:08:51
Bravo! KatiyarI agree with you, Vaisakhanji. But hanging Afzal Mohammad (using the word Guru against his name is to cast a slur on the very word)the very first thing BJP comes to power would send out the message that we mean business.
vipin 28/07/2008 02:07:52
Stepping stoneswell said Vaisakhanji, this are the urgent imminent steps towards resurrection of HINDUSTAN
Vaisakhan 28/07/2008 00:05:06
BJP's prioritiesHanging Afzal Guru should not be the first priority of BJP govt. BJP govt's priority should be:1. Scrap Article 370 and bring in Kashmir on par with other states in India.2. Introduce a common civil code for all Indians irrespective of their region, religion, caste, creed or color.3. Expel all illegal immigrants from Bangladesh (3 crores?) and take measures to bring in hapless hindus from Bangladesh & Porkistan.4. Abolish madrassas where the terror manual is taught to young impressionable minds; instead impart secular education to the children there.5. Stop Hajj subsidy; since no such concessions are given to other religionists stopping Hajj subsidy is a reasonable demand.6. Each and every citizen should be treated equally viz. law of the land.

IUML pleads that the terrorists should not be named as Muslims!

27/07/2008 23:17:30 Courtesy:VEDAPRAKASH
While Kaunanidhi or other TN leaders are keeping proverbial silence on the blasts, K M Khader Mohideen State president of IUML told reporters here last night:
"I appeal to the media and the public not to brand the perpetrators of the Bangalore blasts as Muslims," adding that "These kind of people are neither Muslims, Hindus or Christians. The Centre and the state government should take steps to nab them quickly," he said.
He has expounded highly secularized view without explaining why such terrorists either have Mohammedan names or sends e-mails in the name of Allah! Mohideen said the IUML would continue to remain in the DMK-led Democratic Progressive Alliance in Tamil Nadu and see DMK supremo M Karunanidhi as the DPA leader.

K.Venugopal 28/07/2008 08:40:14
Mohammad, the prototype terrorist

All terrorists who act in the name of religion should be called Muslims because Mohammad destroyed the idols in Mecca and took over the temple from idol worshippers and converted it into a mosque. If Muslims justify the takeover by saying that it was originally a mosque built by Abraham (who himself started his religious practice by destroying the idols his father worshipped!), then Muslims should hand over the 30,000 temples in India that were converted to mosques. If this is too much to ask for, they should at least give up their claims over Ayodhya and return the temples at Mathura and Kashi. But do not expect the least mercy from them. As Aurobindo said, they would listen to reason only when faced with a force capable of inflicting grievous injury upon them. Let the Hindus build up such a force or prepare to perish.

Secularism and Civility under threat in J&K - Online Petition

03/07/2008 11:00:03

To, The President of India, Rashtrapati Bhawan, New Delhi 110001 5

Respected President,

Decision to revoke the allotment of 40-hectare forestland to the Shree Amarnath Shrine Board (SASB) for development of facilities for pilgrims is a complete surrender to the fundamentalist and separatist forces. By revoking the allotment of this land, the Congress party has demonstrated that it is one with the fundamentalists in creating a theocratic environment in the Kashmir valley. Our petition to Your Excellency with great concern at the fast deteriorating socio-political situation of the state. Of particular concern is the rabidly communal stance and statements of the frontline political parties like PDP, the National conference, the CPI (M), in tango with separatists parties and the militant groups, has caused stern alarm to Crores of Hindus across country. An innocuous activity like Shri Amarnath Yatra has been mired into controversies and in effect hurdles are being created in its smooth conductance. Shri Amarnath is one of the most sacred pilgrimage centers of Hindus since times immortal. In the past since the eruption of militancy in the state hundreds of Yatris have sacrificed their lives and have fallen to terrorist bullets if that has not deterred the determination of Yatris to visit Shri Amarnath, now it is in the from of ideological opposition to the yatra been seen. The protagonists of this vicious tirade dub the holy Amarnath Yatra as a cultural invasion of Kashmir affecting its ecology, cultural identity and demography. To this effect these people have been issuing highly inflammatory communal statements causing hurt and anguish to a billion Hindus world over. Ecological damage Kashmir has suffered is as a result of illegal felling of trees by land mafia in connivance with corrupt administration over the years. The systematic reclamation of water bodies and continuous flow of waste materials into lakes like the famous Dal Lake and uncontrolled construction activity rather than the Amarnath Yatra. The much touted Kashmiriyat stands thoroughly exposed which is nothing but a smokescreen to camouflage the communal fangs. In so far as the so called demographic change of Kashmir is concerned, yes it has taken place; the entire population of Kashmiri Hindus was driven out on the basis of faith making them refugees in their own country. Your Excellency Congress is the ruling party it has remained mute spectator to the happenings around. The gains of our valiant security forces are being frittered away at the cost of political pragmatism. Your Excellency in this hour of crisis your personal intervention alone would save the democracy, secularism and civility are under serious threat in Jammu and Kashmir. Yours Truly Kalhan Pandit Click Here To Sign PetitionClick here to view comments

SUNIL 07/07/2008 11:49:07
Boost the morale of Kashmiri Hindus & All Hindus in IndiaVery good and effective opinion by Mr. Venugopal.

K.Venugopal 06/07/2008 04:17:40
Prepare for the greatest Amarnath Yatra in historyWe can now see clearly the valiant Hindus of Jammu fighting for the cause of Hinduism and the Indian nationhood. We must boost their morale by agitating for Amarnath land to be restored. The VHP, who have proved masterly in chalking out programmes step-by-step in the Ramjanmabhoomi agitation till success was achieved, must now chalk out programmes step-by-step involving all the Hindus of the country so that by the time of the Amarnath Yatra next year, lakhs of Hindus would be on their way to Amarnath and all sorts of facilities would be in place to ensure the safety of the pilgrims. Since general elections are also due before the next Amarnath Yatra, we must ensure that the pro-Hindu (nationalistic) BJP comes to power at the centre to facilitate the greatest and most successful Amarnath Yatra in history.

Ganesh 05/07/2008 00:08:53
presidentOne must realise that the present occupant of the Rashtrapathi Bhavan is a puppet of the secular parivar.In spite of the shady past,the lady was posted hoisted to the position of the first person of this unfortunate country.The president is expected to repay her debts to the secular parivar once the parliament election results are published.

Satyanarayanan 04/07/2008 21:30:05
Kashmir-A veritable HellIf the Muslims of Kashmir decide tha t their land shall be a Muslim Paradise,(Hell for other religious communities), then we shall give them what they want and they deserve? Rape and plunder the land of Kashmir, destroy its forests, minestrip the mountains of Kashmir for rocks and stones, pollute the rivers and lakes of Kashmir such that the oxygen index in the water bodies goes below the sustaining levels, make the general climate of Kashmir such that it turns into a veritable desert, with out no air conditioning cool climate. Make the land a veritable desert unable to support anything but scavengers(fox, lizards), snakes , cactii and nomads(Bedouins). LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST DESTROY IT THOROUGHLY!!! I PARAPHRASE WHAT MULLAH JEHANGIR SAID. IF THERE IS A VERITABLE HELL ON EARTH, KASHMIR IT IS, KASHMIR IT IS, KASHMIR IT IS.

Patriotic Indian 04/07/2008 08:24:11
What a Sorry Criminal Attiude by Hindu SpectatorsSo much injustice and so much cruel carnage and ethnic cleansing of hindus has been going on in this state ghost state ever since 1947 and it is a callous crime of majority hindus and their political parties that they have NOT bothered to protest nationally and internationally for so long! Why? can one give an answer to this callous indifference? Who are the Blame? The anti-hindu and mulsim appeasing congress leaders who have ruled the country over 50 years as well as the BJP,VHP, RSS and all hindu organization who have been watching this cruel spectacle and dling nothing. It is also a mystery why hindus in India have not reacted or protested when lakhs of their counter part kafir hindus in Pakistan have been butchered, tortured and brutally killed and forcibly converted by the barbarian muslim majority all these 60 years. The blame must go to hindu community in India as a whole for being a mute spectator watching all these killings and terrorism as if they were watching a bollywood cinema or watching video killing games. What sorry grim spectacle! Cry,cry my beloved countrymen and my beloved mother country

Raju Puducode 04/07/2008 07:38:56
Give Hindus equal rights in HindustanEvery city in India boasts of a Haj house where facilities are extended to the yatris of the Haj pilgrimage. The land for each of these has been provided by the state and grants have been given for their construction. During Haj season, the airports make special arrangements. Thousands of crores of taxpayers money is spent on it. Nobody objects to it. Only a year ago, the BJP government in Rajasthan allotted prime land in Jaipur for the Haj house and funds for its construction. No one heard a murmur of protest from the Hindus on the government largesse. Every pilgrim, whatever his faith, is respected in this country. This is not the place for counting the good deeds and the bad reciprocations. This occasion calls for the condemnation of an attitude, not only of the separatists but also of the so-called political parties committed to the values of democracy and secularism enshrined in our Constitution. To say that the PDP is raking up this issue with an eye on the forthcoming assembly elections is viewing the matter in too simplistic terms. The design is more sinister. They want to erase the Hindu heritage of Kashmir. PDP leader Mufti Mohammad Sayeed and his daughter have earlier also demanded that the Amarnath Yatra should be held at abeyance for “sometime”. They play crass communal politics. Few months ago they demanded Pak currency in Kashmir. They often work hand in glove with the separatists. And they happen to be the bosom friends of Sonia Gandhi. The CPM and the NC are not far behind in stoking communal divide in the Valley.

Vikram Ambalapuzha 04/07/2008 04:21:41
We need- "The Second Indian Independence War".For Hindus, it is high time to initiate the “Second War of Independence” against the “Mughal Emperors” currently ruling us. The Hindu culture is under threat in a nation where 80% of the population are Hindus. If we can’t prevent these Mughals from looting all the virtues of our motherland, I will not be eligible to call myself as a Hindu. Be it the brutal attacks on Hindu pilgrims in Bengal, the temple customs destruction in Kerala, the Hindu abusing going on in Tamil Nadu and the christianization of Temples in Andhra Preadesh.., everywhere Hindu Dharma is being destroyed before our very own eyes. Now, it is not the time to exhibit any further compassion. No further sympathy. Every minute being lost means, that much soil under our feet is getting eroded away. It is our obligation to throw all the Communist Islamist Party and the Congress Islamic party scoundrels into Arabian Sea.We shall restore the Hindu Rashtra. We have the viable models to follow which the great Shivaji Maharaj has shown. Which the kings of Vijayanagara have shown. The Second war for Indian independence should begin for the sake of our Motherland. Else the fingers of future generations will be pointed towards us as the responsibles for the destruction of Hindu Dharma.We shall begin the great “Second Indian Independence War”.Against the Mughal rulers in Delhi. Against the Mughals in Kashmir, Kerala, Bengal and Tamil Nadu. Against all those anti-national turncoats.Jai Sri Ram...!!!----------Vikram Ambalapuzha

Raju Puducode 03/07/2008 14:06:16
Crush the terrorists - Army chief General Deepak Kapoor on Thursday said the possibility of some Kashmiri militants joining the ranks of Taliban and al-Qaida could not be discounted since jehadi mentality knew no national boundaries. "The possibility of some Kashmiri militants being part of Taliban or al-Qaida cannot be ruled out, considering that the outfits are based on certain amount of fundamentalism and jehadist tendency," said Gen Kapoor. "The fact is that when insurgency in J&K was at its peak, we knew of a number of militants with foreign nationalities, besides our neighbour, operating here," he said. Adding that when militants get into "a radicalised or fundamentalist mode", they "do not worry about national boundaries", the Army chief said even now the assessment was that 40-50% of militants currently operating in Kashmir were of foreign origin. "If there are foreign militants operating in Kashmir, there is always this possibility of some Kashmiri militants operating with Taliban and al-Qaida in Afghanistan or anywhere else," he said. The security forces, meanwhile, have stepped up their vigil to thwart the expected upsurge in violence and infiltration in J&K in the run-up to the assembly polls there later this year. An indicator of this was seen on Wednesday when as many as 11 militants were killed on the Line of Control while they were trying to infiltrate into J&K. While holding that violence had declined by around 50% in J&K due to effective counter-insurgency operations, Gen Kapoor said, "But militants may try to create trouble. It's important that the state remains peaceful and safe. The state elections will be an important benchmark in J&K's return to normalcy."

Swami Sandeep Chaitanya gave clean Chit to controversial Text Book!

07/07/2008 13:57:35 HK
Thiruvananthapuram: Swami Sandeep Chaitanya is one of the respected spiritual leaders who won the heart of millions through his exemplary Gita parayan skills.

It is disheartening when some one close to our heart especially spiritual gurus, taking diametrically opposite stands against Hindu society.

Swami Sandeep Chaitanya’s press release on Text book controversy is prominently carried by all Visual and Print media.( This is the same media which completely blacked out Swamiji’s statement on transferring administration of Temples to Hindus in Hindu Matha Convention)

As per reports Swami Sandeep Chaitanya gave clean chit to the VII standard text book and commented that the Text book shouldn’t be withdrawn. Few days earlier we saw swamiji in a DYFI function against fake spiritual leaders. (Of course all Hindu organisations are against fakes and fraudsters, but for a Hindu who is well aware of recent happenings sharing dias with DYFI goons is a bit difficult to digest )

Now coming back to Text book, HK don’t know whether swamiji went through the whole controversial book or not. We wonder whether swamiji’s clean chit to the book is after reading page 34 which mentions about ‘Freedom Struggle in Malabar’.

As per the Text Book version

The 1921 Mappila Riots were against British , The Text book highlights that Khilafath leaders Ali Musaliyar and Kunhahammed Haji gave strict warnings that not to attack any Hindus.British forces used brutal force against that freedom struggle and give a appalling picture of wagon tragedy to show how cruel British were against those patriotic Muslims

Hope swamiji is aware about the true History in which terming Khilafath as freedom struggle is the greatest injustice to History. As each student of History know khilafath movement was not for India’s freedom but the support of Muslim brotherhood of Malabar to Caliphate of Turkey.

HK request Swamiji to go through this compilation from Historical facts about the fate of poor Hindus who fell prey to Jihadi Marauders of Malabar. One thing is for sure the sufferings of Criminals inside that ‘wagon’ is only minimal when considering the pain of thousands who were slaughtered and dumped in wells of Malabar.

http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=6691&SKIN=C

Those who take stand supporting and against the Text book may have their own Political or Religious motive. An average Hindu is not much worried about instilling secularism in text book and won’t see red in such ideals. But this falsified history to glorify the fanatics is like spitting on a Hindu psyche.

HK request all Hindu organisations and Spiritual leaders to stay together and fight against this distorted history.

Vaisakhan 09/07/2008 00:39:36
Swami is rightSwami Sandeep Chaitanya is absolutely right. I have gone through all the 38 pages of Std. VII text book (it is available in www.keralakaumudi.com). The only thing that irked me is one or two sentences about mappila lahala (hindu killing by muslims)- there is no details. Otherwise everything is OK. It is only a UDF, headed by Congress & Kerala Congress (both belonging to Christians) and their ally Muslim League, propaganda to bring this LDF govt down from power. I strongly feel that UDF is more devious than LDF because they at least openly say they are atheists and anti-religion whereas UDF will distroy hindus by its roots slowly. Do you think Karunakaran who goes to Guruvayoor temple 1st of every Malayalam month, care for hindus? same about Chennithala! I wonder why there is no one to smash his chennithala to pottathala! If anybody lose by learning this text book, it is Christians and Muslims, certainly not hindus.

Ashish 08/07/2008 13:52:31
Ask DirectlyThe website and addresses of various centres of School of Bhagavadgita is given below.I request someone to clarify with Shri.Sandeep Chaitanya by writing to him directly and post the answer in the HK.http://schoolofbhagavadgita.org/By post:Headquarters and registered office:School of Bhagavad GitaVazhuthacaud, ThycaudThiruvananthapuram - 695014Kerala,Phone:91-471-2736474E-mail: admin@sobg.org Cochin Center:THE SCHOOL OF BHAGAVAD GITA‘Dakshina’ 44/2020, Deshabhimani Road, KaloorKochi - 682 017, Kerala, IndiaPhone: +91-484-3256135Guruvayur Center:B-5, Achyutham ApartmentsSouth Nada, Guruvayur,Trichur DistKerala, IndiaPhone-+91- 9287572828 E-mail:swami@sobg.org Official E-mail:admin@sobg.org OVERSEAS REPRESENTATIVES Canada: Ashok Prabhakar NairHong Kong: Kolady Prasanna GopalanState of Qatar: C.K. MenonU.A.E: Capt. T.P. Venugopal, Sree RanjanUnited Kingdom: Dr. Ravi SekharUnited States Of America: Smitha VijayanCanada Center31130, Southern Drive, Abbotsford B.CV2T5K2, Canada Phone: 604 8535 049Mob: 604 614 8733email:sobgcanada@sobg.orgU.K. Center6, Rectory Close, Farnham RoyalBuckinghamshire - SL2 3BG, U.KPhone: 1753642993Mob:7710124814Email:sobguk@sobg.org U.S.A Center3405, Leighton Drive, Plano, TX 75025, U.S.A email:sobgusa@sobg.org

Raju Puducode 08/07/2008 13:42:33
Sad day for Hindu leaders !This the unfortunate truth. Though the Muslim & Christian religious priests give advice to their flock every Friday & Sunday not only in spiritual matters but also about politics, economics, procreation to add numbers, as to how & to whom to vote for in elections etc because they have a clear & broad agenda & goal to be achieved. Contrast that with poor Hindu Swamijis & priests. They never even discuss matters pertaining to only spirituality & they lack a national vision for Hindu dharma in Hindustan. They should also start advising why we should support RSS/VHP/Shiv Sena/BJP etc since they are the guardians of Hindu dharma in Bharat in spite of opposition from many Hindus. I remenber one Sankaracharya( from Puri) who was bad mouthing Mr. Modi last year before Gujarat elections which is unheard of among Christians & Muslims. We have a lot to learn from them.

Hindu 08/07/2008 11:28:07
Give us opportunity to study religion!According to the controversial text book, one should select his/ her religion after maturity, if required. One can select the religion, only if he get an opportunity to study it. Hindus do not get an opportunity to study their religion where as they get ample opportunity to study other religions.Either at the convent school or any through any other medium.Most of the communists are Hindus. Most of the atheists are Hindus. The so called "Laxmi Devi" who share the bed with Anwar have no self respect. She is a prostitute ready to sell her flesh for petro dollars. Damn with that bloody Jeevan (Nirjeevan) . Let him go to hell!

Hindu 08/07/2008 10:57:31
Why Laxmi Devi- Anwar ? Why not Antony-Ameena?Misravivaham is all about marriages between Hindu- Muslim or Hindu- Christain! Muslim-Christain Misravivham is unheard in Kerala though their population nearly 50 percent of the total population!. Nealy 90 percent of Misravivham cases , end up with Hindu partner embracing semetic religion! The childrens are brought up as either Muslims or christains as the case may be. There is no case of conversion to Hinduism or childrens brought up as Hindus?It is crystal clear that Hindus need not a lesson in this case.My question is Why this example of Laxmi Devi and Anwar Rashid? Why not Antony and Ameena? The Kerala communists know all this ground realities. But when they feel itching at anus , they used to scratch head!

Vijayalakshmi 08/07/2008 10:50:20
Swami Sandeep ChaitanyaBefore coming to any conclusion,I suggest HK should arrange for an interview with Swami Sandeep Chaitanya at the earliest, and post it on HK.

hari 08/07/2008 09:55:13
Think twice before you criticiseI think we must take a little more sober stand while reacting to swamiji's comment. There is every possibility that his statement had been taken out of context and might have even been distorted by these pseudo secular beggers sitting at the helm of affairs at the print & visual media. Swami Sandeep chaitanya's discourses have been doing great service in reviving the Hindu spirituality in our young generation( OLder as well). It is true that he was a communist in his poorvasram,and I think by his karma he is basically tuned towards adwaitha( Ofcourse a real samnyasi do believe in it). In many of his talks he is ridiculing the temple worship, which a learned person can understand but will confuse a beginner as to temple worship is wrong. You should never discard the ladder after climbing on to the terrace ,as others who are downstairs may need it to climb up. So temple and idol worship is the ladder through which we ascend up to reach the greater planes of vishishtadwaitha and adwaitha. Swamiji seem to forget this fact while giving his lectures.Even then he is definitely one of the guiding forces behind this belated hindu activism in kerala and for that we all are indebted to him. So I request responsible hindu leaders to contact him and get his clarification before making some aggressive comment against him. May be that swamiji was being little soft in criticism to woo communists who are very allergic to criticism.Let us pray for better sense to prevail upon everybody at this difficult time.

menon 08/07/2008 09:18:13
sandeep ChaitanyaThis swami even though highly respected among many Hindus, was a strong communist activist before becoming a swami himself. He is popularly known as a rebel himself. He had issues with Chinmaya Mission and left it few years ago.May be his old thought process and leanings might be playing the game here.

KSV SUBRAMANIAN 08/07/2008 08:23:06
I am really painedI am really pained by what Swami Sandeep Chaitanya has said about the Social studies text book. I regard the venerated swami in great esteem and reverence. We regularly watch his discourse on Bhagavad Gita on Doordarsan and are greatly inflenced. Really I am not able to believe he will make such a statement.I can understand the Indian Secular Morons fabricating Indian history and falsifying the savagery and atrocities of moplahs on hindus in 1921. There are records to show the brutalities perpetrated on the hindus. But the secular terrorists are at it again. It has come to such a pass that any atrocities committed against hindus will be termed as something else viz. freedom fighters , peasant unrest, or expression of some such stupidity. If this trend continues all the terrorists will now be termed as freedom fighters and pension and other benefits will be offered to them. Perhaps they may start it with Afzal guru. For a few votes and power these secular terrorists can go to any length. HK, please take up with the Swamiji. Fabrication and manufacture of history should not go unprotested. This is an insult to the injury.

Nishanth 08/07/2008 07:26:03
An alternative text book - sarcastic.An alternative text book - (Badal paaThapusthakam) suggested by Nakulan in his recent post. Satire at its best! As always, this post too throws some unanswerable questions to the leftists. http://koosism-exposed.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post.html

pillai 08/07/2008 04:13:43
Text BookMost of kerala people want to cancell the book. why the minister not stop. why he want to make new story ?. Goverment lose lot of money this all money from hindus temples. this minister always making trable for education. he don't no any thinks.

Leela 08/07/2008 03:59:53
False swamisWhat can you expect of these false toadying godmen of today who will do anything to make money. A recent issue of the anti-Hindu paper carried a picture of Bangaru Adikalar, his wife and son paying their respects to Hindu hating karunanithi. it was disgusting.

Suryanarayan 08/07/2008 00:49:31
Clarify his stand As Shri.Venugopal has written many hindus will not have much problem in the lesson 'Mathamillatha Jeevan'though many believe that the name 'Lekshmi Devi' was deliberately used.Hindu organisations can ask the Swamy to air his views on Mappila Lahala publically so that the confusion can be cleared.

Kalidas,Mumbai 08/07/2008 00:59:01
HK should directly seek his viewsIt is very hard to believe that disciple of Swami Chinmayananda,a Hindu monk who was /is/will be proud to work for Hindutva cause, taking diametrically opposite stand in this issue.But at the same time we should beware of the strong allurement tactics of ADHARMIC forces , who can buy any man having bestial qualities. But I assume that Ma.Sandeepji is a good sadhak who has divine qualities.HK should directly approach him and seek his views in this matter and if we find him not respecting the sentiments of hapless victims of Moplah riots , then we should strictly warn him.

Praveen 07/07/2008 23:07:47
Look before you leap.Before blaming him,some responsible hindu organisation must talk to Sandeep Chaithanya and understand the reasons for his volte-face.If it is a strategic move to further the hindutwa cause it is OK.If not expose his opportunism.

jayakumar 07/07/2008 23:07:06
dont think like that..pls dont think like that ,he is a very good spiritual guru and he always stand for general issues of hindus.what i understood is ,he told that the book is not against any religion.It is sure that the book is against the historic truth like 'mappila lahala'.but he didnt mention about that.So pls clarify with him first,bcoz the hindus need his service.

K.Venugopal 07/07/2008 22:31:07
Confusion

I think there is confusion about who is attacking what and defending what in the controversial text-book. I have not read Swamiji's press release but I understand that the portion which first became controversial was the part about parents admitting their child to school and the subject of religion coming up. The Christians and Muslims might object to there being a possibility of anyone not adhering to any religion - either theirs or the devils! But the Hindus have always accepted the possibility of there being people who do not follow any particular religion but are yet upright people. The Hindu stress is on Dharma or harmony and not on any specific religion. Therefore the conversation in the Head-master's room should not be a blasphemous one for Hindus. However, the Hindu concerns about the way the Mopala riots are presented in the book is natural. Maybe the Swamiji did not deliberate on this because the basic controversy was on the other subject. HK should contact Swamiji and take up the matter with him.

shibu 07/07/2008 21:26:14
shame swamijiit's shame swamiji

Muthu 07/07/2008 16:23:46
Swami Chaitanya has been purchasedRead below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moplah_RebellionThe Moplah Riots (also known as the "Moplah Rebellion", "Maappila Lahala" in Malayalam) was a British-Muslim and Hindu-Muslim conflict in Kerala that occurred in 1921. During the early months of 1921, multiple events including the Khilafat movement and the Karachi resolution fueled the fires of rebellion amongst the Moplah Muslim community. A rumour spread amongst the Moplahs that the British rule had ended and the Islamic Caliphate had been re-established at Delhi.According to one view, the reasons for the Moplah rebellion was religious revivalism among the Muslim Moplahs, and hostility towards the landlord Hindu Nair Jenmi community and the British administration that inevitably supported the latter.Annie Besant stated: "They Moplahs murdered and plundered abundantly, and killed or drove away all Hindus who would not apostatise. Somewhere about a lakh (100,000) of people were driven from their homes with nothing but their clothes they had on, stripped of everything...Malabar has taught us what Islamic rule still means, and we do not want to see another specimen of the Khilafat Raj in India."[2]Between 2500 and 3500 hindus were killed during the Moplah riots, and an estimated 30,000 were forcibly converted to Islam. The conversion ceremonies included the customary eating of beef. Gandhi said that "our muslim brothers have gone mad in Malabar" while Babasaheb Ambedkar lamented the "inhuman savagery" of the anti-hindu pogrom. Between 100,000 and quarter of a million hindus were forced to leave their homes.

I am Ashamed of this "Swami" 07/07/2008 14:24:59
He's an anti-hindu "Swami"!Sorry, but shame upon this anti-Hindu "Swami"!!!!! He should be stripped of his "Swami" title...With "Swamis" like him, the Hindus don't stand a chance! Sorry!